Tomorrow morning more than 100,000 people (or something) will pass through Dewey Square on their way to work in the financial district. It will be very important for us to respect commuters in the am, during lunch and in the evening. We are the 99%, they are the 99%, and we are here to raise awareness about issues of economic and political reform, not ruin anyones day.
Here’s the schedule for tomorrow:
- 8:00am – Commute march (low key visibility)
- 9:00am – Sign making and placement on top of tents
- 10:30am – Morning General Assembly
- 3:00pm – Hot meal
- 6:00pm – Commute march (low key visibility)
- 7:00pm – General Assembly
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How do I donate? This is what I have been waiting to see happen. It is time the other side had a voice. The right has organized and is crushing the left. The 99 percent need a voice but mostly an organization. I want my grandchildren to have the country I really believe we can and must be. Read the Globe article on state’s voting rights acts passed in the past couple of years. Rapidly this country is turning backwards. Everyone must stand up and say enough is enough. We must educate our young, respect our elderly and tap the strength of the middle class.
Yes yes yes
Aiya – Thanks for your support! We are working on being able to accept cash donations. Right now you can donate by bringing non-perishable food or supplies (see our constantly updated needs list here: https://sites.google.com/site/occupyrevolution/what-we-have) to our Dewey Square camp.
The most important thing you can do is spread the word – on facebook, twitter, and amongst your friends and family.
Lastly, come out and join us! We need bodies on the ground to show that we’re not going to take it anymore!!
I will do what I can! I live in the neighborhood and I’ve been bringing a bag or two of food everyday- Can’t feed the entire village by myself, but hopefully others will follow!
“The right has organized and is crushing the left. ”
I think you may be missing the point of 99%. It’s not right v left. Right, left, middle, way out in center field, we’re all in this together.
I support you guys. Stay strong. I am going to do what I can in my home state thanks to your inspiration.
Thanks for being out there today while I have to go to work for The Man. This is the beginning.
Elizabeth, why do you HAVE to work for “the man”? You locked down?
Ditto, it may not be obvious but you have a lot of support among those of us with corporate jobs. We are all in this together. Can’t do much “officially” but I plan on posting a couple flyers anonymously in non-business areas of the office (bathrooms, breakroom, cafeteria, etc) and encourage others to do the same.
Chris, in your own words you’re part of the problem!!! Quit your job and shove it to “the man”. Very admirable that you would litter your employers’ building with flyers anonymously. Take a stand, sir – lead by example
Quitting is not helping the cause.
Thanks, Chris and Elizabeth, for flyering at your work site and leaving your supportive comments here. Work is work, whether at a corporation, in precarious employment, or while protesting in Dewey Park. Unless you own the means of production, you’re part of the 99% (and not “part of the problem,” as Doug A sez.)
I help at Dewey Park when I can, myself. Occupy Boston also belongs to those who have jobs.
Thank you Chris for your contribution! Other things you can do include sharing your views on twitter, facebook, or among your friends and family, donating supplies, and coming out on evenings/weekends (there are many covering their faces to protect their identities). Anything you can do in support is appreciated!
Hi,
I was hoping I could please come film Occupy Boston and interview a few of you for a school project. Unfortunately, it will not be aired, but since I am a broadcast journalism grad student at BU, it will, at the very least, be shown to my fellow students and my professor. What you are doing is important, and I wish I could join you!
Please email me at:
cbick@bu.edu
or
carolyn.bick@gmail.com
Thank you very much,
Carolyn Bick
P.S. I was thinking about trying to get vegan pizza down there for those of you who are vegan, but Peace O’ Pie doesn’t deliver that far, and the hot meal is supposed to be, well, hot.
Aren’t 1% of them not part of the 99%? Isn’t that the point of being in the financial district?
Some of them are, in fact, the 1%, but most are not. Secretaries, security workers, interns, programmers, and thousands more people working in the financial district are still in the bottom 99%.
Solidarity from western Mass workers!
stay warm!
@occupycambridge do you actually think that any of that magical 1% WORKS in the financial district?
Also for future reference blocking all the exits to a building, including fire exits does not endear anyone who works in that building to your cause.
Nobody is blocking exits or entrances to buildings!
BU Occupies Boston is getting organized to be at the 6 pm march!
Go BU,
NU is following suit!
#OccupyAmerica
#OccupyTheWorld
#OccupyTogether
Trying to rally Harvard/MIT folk to the cause.
Currently we have a Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/HarvardMIT_OccupyBoston/159687827454078
Best of luck!
Sorry to put this here, but I’m looking for that comment thread from this past weekend where there was a troll (John F?) with bad spelling/grammar who was really nasty and everyone responded so beautifully, with grace and maturity. I want to show it to my husband. Is it still around?
I believe you mean comments on the logistic page http://occupyboston.com/logistics/
We need to up our presence on on-line gathering places such as reddit (as a redditor I may be biased, but still). There are people out there talking about the occupation and we need to be sure we’re part of the message. I know there are only a limited number of people actually at the camp who can monitor this stuff, but there’s a bunch of us out here working out 9 to 5 jobs that can check up on this sort of stuff during breaks and whatnot.
Anyways, here’s an example of what’s being said in the on-line sphere: http://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/kyu8y/so_i_visited_occupy_boston/ We should probably make sure we have “official” statements from camp addressing these concerns.
Is there any sort of PR group that’s been formed or would this fall into Media’s sphere?
contact @OccupyBos_Media
I would like to start an Occupy Cape Cod. Preferably in Hyannis. Would anyone be interested in joining me? If so, please state so here. Also, how would I go about this and find a place to camp out where we would not be thrown off. All of this is so awesome. I have been waiting over 20 years for an event like this. Let’s cover every town in the US!
please go to occupytogether.org – they should be able to connect you with an existing movement or help you start one! Good luck!
seriously people donate goods , services or your time. DO NOT DONATE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES. Using their money is how you all ended up in this state in the first place. Use anything else as currency. Seashells, tobacco … who cares. Just not their slave script
I wonder if Godaddy took seashells as payment when they registered this domain, if so I really need to get a new contract with them.
L.O.L. This made me laugh so hard.
Could someone please tell me what EXCTLY you are protesting, and what you plan on accomplishing?
Thank you,
Doug
a bunch of white college kids whinge about not getting a piece of the surplus value pie. they know there’s a big disparity in wealth and income but couldn’t be fucked to analyze -how- that gap is made, through the process of accumulation, privatization, etc. they think it’s this great 99% vs 1% thing, as if there’s no further stratification. “the cops are part of the 99%” (sic) — utter bullshit, of course. most of america is peasentry: that is, without a proletarian conscience and materially better off by working within the system. all these punks you see at occupyboston, ny, whatever will turn on racial minorities for scraps. such is the myth of the white proletariat
what are you doing here? shouldn’t you be jerking off to pics of alan greenspan?
“what are you doing here? shouldn’t you be jerking off to pics of alan greenspan?”
you’re a fuckin’ idiot
Well since pete is too lazy to google search about the movement, I will tell you.. That I can not tell you. If you want to know EXACTLY what this movement is about, you are out of luck and are the EFG here. If you are interested in a general statement about what it is about, you simply just need to ask yourself, as you are anonymous. You know the problems, these protestors are just acting on your feelings.
This protest is about injustice. There are so many individual points: Corruption in government, wars, occupation of foriegn lands, oil dependency, the defecit, etc. Everyone there, is there for their individual ideas of injustice.
We are all vastly different, we are all brought together by and gainst injustice.
We are all anonymous.
We are all the 99%
as a communist and a frequent attender of the occupation, I can tell you, Pete, that a lot of people there are excited talking about these ideas in ways that they have never had a chance to before, and many people there are already well versed in the things you’re discussing. A social and economic revolution, which I think you are advocating for, WILL help the 99%, regardless of where they fall in that very stratified 99%. If you want to make your thoughts heard at the occupation, I am certain many people will like what you have to say.
And its always better to have as many people on the side of the 99% as opposed to the 1%, even if they are “bunch of white college kids.” That’s what a class ally is.
It doesn’t seem like a protest, It is people getting together coming to a decision on what they all want and figuring out how to achieve that. At least that’s what I’ve seen happening so far.
I guess you could call that a government of the people. Though there acknowledgment a more diverse representation is needed and an outreach group working on that.
But to answer your question directly “no” there has been no decision on exact positions but the group.
It is quite amazing what they are doing, I am especially impressed with #occupyboston and their organization skills. The media keeps calling #occupywallst a bunch of Hippies, but I feel that they would have to acknowledge the community Boston is making.
The government they are creating is great, I don’t know how it would stand up on a national level, but I think they have found something here.
As to what they would create in the future, I think most of the 99% are happy with the way the country is set up now, they just want it more efficient and less corrupt.
That is what is beautiful about this. They all are agreeing quite well. The reason they are there is because of common ground.
It is easy to agree on these issues because they view them as mala en se crimes.
I look forward to your party, but it will be useless without Proportional Representation.
Nickolo: that’s a bunch of shit mate. you can’t list one lucid goal
Lucid Goals of OccupyBoston:
(Note: I can’t list all of them, because we are all different)
Removal of monetary corruption in government including but not limited to:
Ending corporate “buying” of votes
Allowing tax loopholes as well as tax breaks on those that take advantage of those loop holes.
End of enviromentally damaging acts that are supported by the government so corporations can profit.
End of unefficient government spending
There are many many more demands, because this country and world are very fucked up. Just because you can afford to own an iphone and go to work all day not making a difference, doesn’t mean their aren’t problems in the world.
@Nickolo So peace, love and granola then?
While the goals you have stated are not necessarily bad goals. Until you have a road map to achieving them they are a pipe dream.
The notion that you can remove corruption from politics is almost laughable. Perhaps you can name a form of government that is not corrupt in one way or another? *This viewpoint may be influenced by my being raised in Rhode Island land of political corruption.
While I can certain argue your second point, I won’t bother I’ll just give you that one.
Government spending is only inefficient when it is spent on some thing you don’t support.
@Nickolo
I’d also be curious how you know Pete doesn’t make a difference in the world, or maybe I am misreading that?
Lol I hate granola
The basic roadmap is to:
1. Gather as many common issues as we can from everyone, even you.
2. Collect as many people that feel the same way or have other ideas to contribute.
3. Repeat step 1
4. Educate ourselves and the world about these issues.
5. Repeat step 2 and step 1
6. Use our power to vote as a threat to politicians. Show them how we are the many and we have demands.
7. Politicians will meet those demands, or lose their jobs.
Basically, we want to make a society that accepts their differences and works to a common goal, which is true democracy.
I personally don’t plan on sitting in the road until someone passes a law I want. I hope to show that The Majority of America wants (insert popular goal here) and we are tired of our lack of direct democracy, and politicians that no longer work for us.
We win, not when we all get what we want, but when the road is paved, and the system fixed so we can work towards the goal of getting what we think is right.
Right now we don’t vote for laws or plans or wars. Others do, others that don’t have our interests at heart. And we want that to change.
As for the comment about pete, I was referring to his job not meaning anything, not his self. Unless he is a doctor, then congrats Pete! You are a bit insensitive for a doctor, but at least you are saving lives. (I presume this also, he could be a terrible doctor.)
Ok, so peace and love then?
Part of this whole problem is that is near impossible to find common ground with a diverse group of people.
Let’s look at this on a small scale say a condo association for instance. Well it’s time for the condo to paint the common hallways. Everyone one has an opinion about what color they should use and what kind of paint they need to use. One person wants red because he thinks it’s a warm inviting color and he wants his guest to have that feeling when the enter. Another person feels that a nice neutral cream is what they want to convey to their parents when they come to visit. Still another thinks that the proper Feng Shui dictates that green is the appropriate color because it draws in the proper energy. It can take weeks or months (depending on the force of each persons personality) for them to make any sort of decision. You may think this scenario is far fetched, but believe me I have seen it more times then I can count. Finding common ground on some issues is pretty simple, say child molestation for instance, I don’t think you would find many to argue that is wrong and should be punishable by law. (Some might argue the extent of the punishment but I think the common ground would at least be there.)
But finding common ground on other issues is much harder, as a good example we’ll take an issue near and dear to my heart. Federal and state funding for bicycle lanes and bicycle paths as well as funding for awareness of traffic laws for both cyclists and motorists. I am 100% behind funding for these programs, I think they are useful and important. Now if you ask someone who’s never ridden a bike if the government should fund these programs they would almost definitely say no. It would be tough to convince them, that my point of view was valid. I could talk till I was blue in the face and it would not make a lick of difference, that person would never find common ground with me.
At times I think common ground may have gone the way of common sense.
People have become inflexible in their world view, it’s their way or the highway. You are either with us or against us. Us vs. them. The 99% vs the 1% as much as I’d like to say it was just the conservatives that have this issue, I see it in liberals just as often.
In conclusion (because I am sick of typing and want to draw some comics) I have determined that I am setting up my own political party, with an agenda that everyone can get behind. I will be announcing it shortly, because I know you will be waiting with baited breath for it.
bloody fuckin hell nickolo read doug’s query. “what exactly are you protesting? “like, everything, maaaaaaaaaan.”
No, I’m saying they are protesting corruption and injustice. That IS what they are protesting. There are so many examples of this though.
For example, if you protested immigration, you would also be protesting:
Immigration laws
Government officials that support it
Schools that are lenient againt immigration
etc
We are against the injustices we see everyday and the corruption that makes it.
So following the example we are also against:
Unjust laws (Gun control, or international laws, or the patriot act, or high taxes) This doesn’t speak for everyone.
We are against the officials that are bought out
It isn’t difficult to understand, you are just confused, because when you support something you expect everyone to think exactly the same.
We support this and hope that everyone is different. We want to hear the voice of every view in how we can better the country. It is called democracy.
And don’t pull the hippie stoner card on my, personally I hate all drugs, including alcohol
That’s all I ask since this site (and every other) tells me nothing.
It’s kind of a “you have to be there” kind of thing. This site doesn’t have a forum, so it’s hard to join the conversation, but try http://www.occupywallst.org for their forum.
‘the group does not have a coherent stance on any single issue’
this is what you are saying
If you want a coherent stance on a single issue, I think it has been accepted that everyone is against the corruption that money has caused within the government.
Here is a list of demands for you:
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/
This is my own viewpoint, not the consensus viewpoint of #Occupy or #OccupyBoston. The community is currently working on developing a consensus on a statement of grievances and demands.
My two cents:
Many criticize the movement for not having concrete demands. I would say the movement is nascent, and it will take time to develop demands. However, I think there is agreement on a number of common grievances:
1) The top 1% own 50% of the wealth. The tax code is lopsided, the safety net is broken. The average family is struggling, and failing to meet its basic needs, while CEO’s and wall street execs are making record profits and record bonuses. This 2 years after the TAXPAYERS bailed out those banks. Where is OUR bailout? The 99% want to know!
2) The government bailed out banks but the banks are screwing over families in foreclosure. Some families overspent and they may need to lose their homes, but some families just need a lower interest rate, a little forebearance, a little help to be able to stay in their homes.
3) Corporations have too much political power. See Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, lobbying in general, Mitt Romney. We need to return political power to where it belongs – the people.
^^^ sorry, typing on phone is terrible.
Thank you, Mr. Clownshit, but could you please answer my question? PS. Mr. Greenspan’s not my type.
Please ignore him, he is not very mature, I tried to answer your question above.
Nickolo, you answered absolutely nothing.
Okay, well what do you want? A broad statement or a single issue?
I’d simply like to know the goal of this whole stance. What is it you want accomplished. It’s a pretty direct question, so I would expect a pretty direct response.
We want a better world. It is a simple, direct answer.
You want to know what is wrong with this world. No. You want to know what we think is wrong with this world. That I can not answer. For we are all individuals, we all find different things to be wrong. We are Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative. I can tell you what I personally think is wrong with the world, but not what we all think is wrong with the world.
We are all people that came together because we felt something was wrong with the world. We came to include our views with the groups. So in the end:
The group is trying to fix the world, by listening to it’s individual members and figuring out what the members think is wrong, and then acting on it.
You most certainly have issues with some government policy or another. We would enjoy your input too.
Nickolo, that helps a little in one way, but not another. I think it’s safe to say we ALL want a better world, but is “occupying” helping? How much money has been spent, (by us TAXPAYERS), on these protests? How many people have been arrested? Shouldn’t these protests be aimed towards the root of the problem (government per you)? Why not take it to The White House?
Ahh, yes that is a very good concer, one I share as well.
The occupation is just phase 1 so to speak. Some here think it is the end. Kind of a “I’ll hold my breath until you…” sort of tactic. But I believe that it is just one step. To bring attention to the issue. Politicians work for us, and this is how we will show them we are displeased (as well as showing the next ones what we expect.) It also shows those like us that it is okay to stand up for what you want.
I don’t think you need to Occupy some place, for I am not there, but I support them for doing their part.
As for the arrests, yes it is sad that it wastes some tax payers money, a micro amount compared to how the rest of our money is wasted but still. On the other hand, some arrests are okay, because it shows we mean what we say, and won’t easily be swayed.
I don’t think people should go out and get arrested, like on the Brooklyn Bridge, but I also don’t think we should go home because some cops threaten with arrest.
At the same time it isn’t just protesters causing that issue, some cops (in Wallst) were arresting people for the smallest reasons, or no reasons at all. Most were just released afterwards. Actually, if anything, it increases revenue for police, because 700 people from the Brooklyn Bridge now probably have to pay fines.
So it kind of balances out.
In short:
Protest Arrests waste tax money
Protest Arrest bring attention and show solidarity
Protest Arrestees pay fines, so the money is paid back
We must be careful not to be arrested for stupid things that are clearly disruptive and illegal, as it could make for some bad press.
that comment was in response to pete’s hilariously uninformed sweeping generalizations. but jon seemed to sum it up nicely- that it is about recognizing staggering corruption and inequality, and formulating a plan to navigate our way towards a more human-friendly society. the specifics of it are relative- think of a mosaic of grievances, not an army parading behind a single-voiced figurehead.
I understand, but if we act civil, they look like the idiots.
Plus they may be calmed down enough to listen and speak.
well now you’re insinuating that masturbating to pictures of alan greenspan is somehow uncivilized, which is obviously just plum silly.
refusing to stand up for their own rights and interests is what makes them look like idiots, not some random internet commenter being juxtaposed against them.
reading your posts, you seem quite sensitive to how others view you and this movement. but to me this is about standing up and being heard, not about PR. maybe we just differ in that respect, and thats ok. as discussed tirelessly on this page, we don’t all have to adhere to a single specific agenda here.
No, I just like to be represented through my text.
And yes I do care how this movement looks. If it looks bad, then all this is for naught. We all need to scream out, but after we get it out of our systems, we need to get things done. I want this movement to succeed and it won’t if people think we are crazy.
Every movement should care about PR.
Why in the world would you think it is unimportant? Perhaps you think PR has some negative connotations to it? But it boils down to how the public perceives you. If they think your movement is just a bunch of arrogant snot nosed punks or worse a bunch of fringe lunatics then it’s not to likely to succeed.
While I don’t necessarily agree with Nickolo on a lot of points he at least seems open to civil discourse about things. Which is something I can respect.
“I think it’s safe to say we ALL want a better world, but is “occupying” helping? How much money has been spent, (by us TAXPAYERS), on these protests? How many people have been arrested? Shouldn’t these protests be aimed towards the root of the problem (government per you)? Why not take it to The White House?”
Ex.actly.
ouch, I can’t blame the phone for my poor editing…but despite that I hope my answer is somewhat intelligible.
Glenn Greenwald’s column on “well-intentioned critiques” of Occupy Wall Street protests is worth reading: http://politics.salon.com/2011/09/28/protests_21/
Also, a depressing read about JPMorgan Chase and larges gifts to the NYC Police Foundation here: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/is-jp-morgan-getting-a-good-return-on-4-6-million-gift-to-nyc-police-like-special-protection-from-occupywallstreet.html
We will be bringing 2000 fliers to help recruit college kids tonight.
I have a fun flier aimed at college kids, I will send it to you
Can folks please link to images of their flyers here? I’d like to see what’s out there already. I’ve posted mine in the comments on the Flyers page
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You might want to consider using these instead, they include Boston-specific info: http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8726/occupybostoncollegehs.jpg
Those are great! We should try to make different ones for different goals to! 😀 (Not just financial ones) Otherwise WE will look like the greedy ones lol
I would love some more input! Nickolo, if you’re not opposed to the idea we could move flyer design discussion over to the production studio on whyweprotest.net?
Okay!
Expect me lol
Hi occupiers! We were at the GA last night and wanted to talk to someone on the recess committee about organizing skillshares and activities for kids, but couldn’t find anyone at the tent after the meeting, so I’m checking here — we’d love to get involved. Is there someone I can talk to directly about this?
Hello Doug,
I will try and answer is as concise a manner as I can. Since this is an ongoing discussion and consensus has not been met as of yet. We would like to start a nationa discussion about the inequity and injustice in our current economic and political systems. Where the government is making policy that rewards the top 1% of wealth earners with complete disregard to how those policies will impact the remaining 99% of the country.
While I can’t speak for the entire Occupy Movement, this is what I have observed the movement to be and what I hope it can accomplish: http://crazyworld-leann.blogspot.com/2011/10/dear-mr-president-we-are-99.html
As for Alan Greenspan. In 2009 he testified before Congress stating that his entire life’s work was wrong. He stated quite clearly that free market economics & trickle down economics has failed and can not work. Just a point.
While I can’t speak for the entire Occupy Movement, this is my observation on what the movement is and what it can accomplish:
While I can’t speak for the entire Occupy Movement, this is what it means to me: http://crazyworld-leann.blogspot.com/2011/10/dear-mr-president-we-are-99.html.
And in regard to Alan Greenspan … in case anyone is interested, he testified in 2009 before Congress that his entire life’s work was wrong. He stated quite clearly that the free market economy & trickle down economics has failed and can not work.
While I can’t speak for the entire movement, this is what I think the Occupy Movement stands for:
Sorry – don’t know why it did that – it kept doing funny things so I just kept starting again – I apologize.
when is the Facilitation Committee meeting, today?
Is there anybody who will be at the general assembly tonight who feels comfortable running sound? I feel like I should pass the baton!
Love,
— Farhad
HERE ARE SOME MORE DEMANDS TO ADD:
LOWERING FOOD PRICES
LOWERING GAS PRICES
LOWERING OR GETTING RID OF TOBACCO TAX
THE RE-INSTITUTION OF FREE AIR FOR TI
RES
OF PAY PHONES (THAT ARE DISAPPEARING-TAKE A WILD GUESS WHY)
THE END OF ANIMAL TESTING
THE END OF THE FDA
THE END OF FACTORY FARMS
THE END OF INJECTIONS HORMONES IN ANIMALS
THE END OF THE SOCIAL WORK SYSTEM
THE END OF CODEX
THE END OF THE BIG PHARMA
THE END OF FORCIBLE RITALIN DUE TO THE BOGUS “DISEASES” OF ADD AND ADHD
THE END OF FORCED VACCINATIONS
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THE DEMOCRATS=THE LEFT=MEDIA=HOLLYWOOD=CORPORATE AMERICA=SATANICS=BANKSTERS
AND YES THE OLD 80’S RUMOR IS TRUE
PROCTOR AND GAMBLE DOES USE A SATANIC LOGO SYMBOL…
STARTING TO GET IT?!!!!!
Here are my responses to your demands:
LOWERING FOOD PRICES – will be lowered when gas prices go down and the dollar goes up
LOWERING GAS PRICES – Has a lot to do with the freedom of corporations to control the market.
LOWERING OR GETTING RID OF TOBACCO TAX – We have to tax something, why not something that is bad for you? You are right, it is wrong, but it was that, or raise the tax on EVERYTHING. Would you rather pay a tax on something that is killing you, or on something that you need to stay alive?
THE RE-INSTITUTION OF FREE AIR FOR TIRES – It is called a tire pump, anyone can get one, how are we supposed to tell gas stations how to sell their services. Seriously, there is a $20 automatic tire pump that you plug in your car lighter. Besides, you technically are not supposed to pump your tires shortly after you drive (which you have to do to get to these stations.
OF PAY PHONES (THAT ARE DISAPPEARING-TAKE A WILD GUESS WHY) – Govenments have those tapped, so what does it matter? Pre-pid disposable phones are saffer.
THE END OF ANIMAL TESTING – I totally agree, but. Do we begin testing on humans? For hair care products and the likes, there is no excuse. But if a new virus comes out, do you test on humans to cure it? I mean I’m not saying it is right or wrong to test on willing volunteers, I’m just saying.
THE END OF THE FDA – Just…Why? So we can have crazy companies releasing dangerous or just useless drugs?
THE END OF FACTORY FARMS – I agree, though it counter acts your cheap food demand. For example. Go to Whole Foods and grab a pound of beef, then go to Walmart and get a pound. Compare the prices. Though, Our farmers need a way to survive, and animals deserve better treatment while alive.
THE END OF INJECTIONS HORMONES IN ANIMALS – Yes please! I don’t even know how this is legal. “Eat a chicken breast, grow some bigger breasts! GENIUS!” “Um sir, Males eat chicken too…” “They do??……worth it!”
THE END OF THE SOCIAL WORK SYSTEM – “What exactly are you refering to?
THE END OF CODEX – Really? What do you mean? Which meaning of the word. Do you mean books? See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_(disambiguation) for my confusion.
THE END OF THE BIG PHARMA – Okay, Perhaps a way to make it easy for smaller ones, but are you suggesting we buy cough medicine from a back alley small business?
THE END OF FORCIBLE RITALIN DUE TO THE BOGUS “DISEASES” OF ADD
AND ADHD – It isn’t forcible, just parents not caring about their children, once again, nothing we can do.
THE END OF FORCED VACCINATIONS – There are pros and cons of a vaccine. But, let me tell you a little about vaccines. Either all use them, or none use them. If no one uses them, we would still be dying of long lost diseases. If all use them, we can kill off disease, theoretically. If only SOME use them, the disease uses those who don’t use them in order to spread and multiply and mutate into a disease we can no longer stop. Look it up or ask a bio teacher.
ALL BROUGHT TO YOU BY
THE DEMOCRATS=THE LEFT=MEDIA=HOLLYWOOD=CORPORATE AMERICA=SATANICS=BANKSTERS=the pawns=the religious=socialist russia=bollywood=internet=the right=the republicans.
It is brought to us by all sorts, mostly greed. You can’t blame it on the left or right. But you are the first person I have heard that equates the Left to the banks.
AND YES THE OLD 80′S RUMOR IS TRUE
PROCTOR AND GAMBLE DOES USE A SATANIC LOGO SYMB
Big whoop. And Hitler used a Norse/Hindu symbol because he thought it looked cool, not because he believed in those things (Obviously it was quite the opposite)
Also, that rumor is false:
See:
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp
Also, it just doesn’t make sense. The devil has no association with the moon, and there are no other symbols.
Thank you, Nickolo.
Nickolo: I don’t know old you are but I am in my 50’s and have seen in hindsight all the Banksters, ie: NWO has done since the early 70’s. And all I mentioned on my demand list are part of it. You don’t seem to realize the very sinister web they have weaved and every row of that web correlates with what irks me. Indcluding getting rid of all freebies and charms in this country, along with demonic systems like the USDA’s injecting cattle with cancer causing hormones, Codex which is already implemented in Britian ( the making illegal of all medicinal herbs), the dumbing of our children through Ritalin (this drug causes chemical lobotomies-did you know that?) along with all else I mentioned.
No, I agree with your dislike of the bankers, You were just equating them to the left, they are just as much left as they are right.
And I will not pretend to know all about the codex, but I believe it should be illegal for doctors to offer those herbs (as research hasn’t proven their effects yet just take an alternative medicine class.) But they are still helpful and should not be outlawed from the homes of individuals.
And yes, I knew that about ridilin. What you need is a truth campaign, not legislation to stop that.
AGAIN-IF ANYONE WANTS TO PROTEST ON CAPE COD, MA’S MOST CORRUPT AREA, THEN PLEASE REPLY TO THIS COMMENT.
Is Cape cod MA’s most corrupt area? Please, post your story, for I haven’t heard this and will be sure to support you. Also, while I agree bringing the march to the corrupt would be a good sign. I think it would be better to unite with a large group than start a small occupation in the same state. There are more resources in boston for you to last longer.
I am continuing my comment here-The problems aren’t just fixed votes, and Wall Street and all the other catastrophes the protestors are enraged about that have been listed, but the problems I included to. The left is doing this. The Banksters are part of the left, the freemasons, the zionists. And what is happened with the bailouts is only part of what they have done. The rise of food prices in ’88 was the starting point. And yes, the Banks are responsible as they are responsible for gas prices and everything else I mentioned. Educate yourself!
You sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Which is okay. But how are the banks ONLY a part of the left, when the right wants to give them tax breaks. The world isn’t broken up into sides. If I was to believe the rumors of the freemasons, then yes, they are some scary templar bastards. As for zionists. Well, nothing wrong with Jewish people wanting to go “home” like their book tells them, the problem is that they are building their house on top of human being’s heads.
Looking for info on where to drop off needed materials on your list. Thanks for doing this!
I am also looking for this info. I can probably bring some stuff Tuesday, but I can’t carry it all on the subway and I’m not used to driving in Boston, so I was wondering if there are other locations for dropoff or if I could hook up with others…
If you’re driving north on 93, get off at the South Station exit. I think it’s 24C, not sure exactly. You’ll pass South Station on the right and then the Federal Reserve Building on the right. Get into the left lanes. there’s a place you can drop off materials from the left lane across from the Fed Reserve building. This will be tricky during high-traffic times but is a cinch at night.
Alternately, if you turn left there are metered spots (no cost after 6pm) starting after the bridge over the Fort Point Channel. You’ll have to walk back towards Dewey Square but it’s a place you can stop and leave your car for a period of time if you need to.
If you’re driving south on 93, get out at the South Station exit and immediately wrap around to the left (South Station will be in front and on your right. You will turn left, away from it). DeweySquare camp will be on your left.
Bring any donations to the Tactics tent at Dewey Square (across from the South Station T Stop). Tactics is a brown tent on the gravel path, between the small Legal tent and the large Food tent. If you have trouble finding it, ask anyone at the protest to direct you to Tactics or look for someone with a blue armband.
So I couldn’t help noticing that when one of your ringleaders was asked by a reporter “so what are your goals and demands?” he couldn’t give a straight answer.
Maybe you kids should grow up a little bit until you can come up with a little more than just marching for the sense of marching.
1) We don’t have ringleaders
2) We want everyone in the bottom 99% to have their say. As you might imagine, getting even loose representation from the vast majority of Americans is a little difficult, so it’s taking some time to figure out what exactly it is that the people want. That’s okay. We don’t want to be telling everyone what they should think, we just want them to come and air their grievances and help us figure out how we can all get the change that we so desperately need.
If you have some concrete ideas on how best to move forward, please come down and join the discussion! In addition to organized message conversations at the General Assembly, I’ve seen many small groups come together for impromptu discussion about what the best way is to move forward. The facilitators are welcoming anyone to submit proposals, or to sign up to speak at the General Assembly.
So in other words, it’s exactly what I thought it was: a bunch of childish wannabe-rebels getting together for a little “let’s take the streets!” party, with no goals of what to accomplish except to have as many people as possible in one place, so they can all pat themselves on the back for a job well done, even if they don’t actually get anything done at all.
No, it is exactly as it was explained to you. A bunch of human beings, of all types. Getting together because they see the injustice in the world and want to voice there opinions and invite others to do the same. The group has gotten together to visably show the world they are growing as they grow, they discuss their problems everyday. It is called a direct democracy. You want it, and we want it. So why spread hate?
You did an excellent job of ignoring everything I said and refusing the olive branch I extended. Well done, sir.
Kate, are you at the occupation?
I don’t need your olive branch. I have no desire to find myself in a video clip on The Daily Show, being ridiculed by Jon Stewart…who sympathizes with you, so he’ll be kind enough to give you enough attention to make fun of you. The people you’re REALLY trying to send a message to will just completely ignore you. You’re completely wasting your time. A general “come on out and make your voice heard” event will simply make you the left-wing equivalent of a Tea Party rally, where every nutjob left-of-center will simply come out to rant. If you really want to make a difference, you have to STAND FOR SOMETHING. And no…”justice” doesn’t cut it. What’s your agenda? What do you want to accomplish? If you’d taken the time to STUDY the issues you claim to care so much about, you’d be able to answer that question. But you can’t, because you don’t really know anything except that you’re angry about something. And don’t give me that nonsense about “not telling people what to think.” That’s just an excuse, and a pretty bad one, too. It’s not “telling people what to think,” it’s telling people what YOU think. You need to organize around an issue, a REAL issue, and the people who agree with you might march with you. Those who don’t agree can simply organize their own protest.
Nickolo: I’m not there right now, I had to catch up on work at home.
So DB,
What then, do you propose?
I’m sure I alone don’t know what the solution to the nation’s problem’s is, but I also know I love my country far to much to continue to watch it fall.
Nothing is worse than doing nothing.
DB… you took the words out of my brain…
I don’t need your olive branch. I have no desire to find myself in a video clip on The Daily Show, being ridiculed by Jon Stewart…who sympathizes with you, so he’ll be kind enough to give you enough attention to make fun of you. The people you’re REALLY trying to send a message to will just completely ignore you. You’re completely wasting your time. A general “come on out and make your voice heard” event will simply make you the left-wing equivalent of a Tea Party rally, where every nutjob left-of-center will simply come out to rant. If you really want to make a difference, you have to STAND FOR SOMETHING. And no…”justice” doesn’t cut it. What’s your agenda? What do you want to accomplish? If you’d taken the time to STUDY the issues you claim to care so much about, you’d be able to answer that question. But you can’t, because you don’t really know anything except that you’re angry about something. And don’t give me that nonsense about “not telling people what to think.” That’s just an excuse, and a pretty bad one, too. It’s not “telling people what to think,” it’s telling people what YOU think. You need to organize around an issue, a REAL issue, and the people who agree with you might march with you. Those who don’t agree can simply organize their own protest.
Shutup DB. What the hell are they supposed to do when they can not do what their ancestors did in the past? And what was that? Execute them. And that is precisely why the Banksters, ie: the leftwingers, ie: the zionists have never rised as high now as they have before. Before they were controlled by government, Hung. Burned at the stake. But now we have police forces. Instead of the people, the mobs getting rid of them on their own. And this is why these leftist losers have pushed their way, corrupted their way into the government since the last century, why they OWN the government now. So they can’t be stopped again. This is why I believe none of this will stop until there is some sort of civil war in this country again. Unless of course we can use the laws somehow to get rid of them once and for all, as they deserve to be in prison for life, especially since they have committed treason against the Constitution and the United States. These kids want a future, A good one and I don’t blame them. They want one for their children to. They have every right to protest and try to until the reins in before things get even worse,
Ah…push enough buttons and the truth comes out. So some of you are motivated by good old-fashioned hatred of Jews! Nice. See? This is what happens when you don’t have a real agenda. If you’d really stood for something, you’d get intelligent people following you…instead, you’ve got “FightingBack” and his “anti-zionist” agenda. Nice. Good luck, losers.
no wonder this country is messed up, DB is surfin the web, trolling sites when he should be working.
Actually, unbelievably, He doesn’t hate jews. He hates satan worshipers. He just calls them zionists for some reason… o.o Idk why, but read his other posts.
Agreed. Again. I posted very similar comments underneath the Press Release posts, and received a similar response about how I should be working because I have a job. We’re dealing with really organized thought processes here. I’m 28 in a hella amount of student loan debt, my life is not charmed but I am not ignorant enough to think that becoming the mayor of a tent city is going to change the world.
try to pull the reins in before things get even worse
our coverage from today with a Dropkicks Murphy soundtrack: http://latinorebels.com/2011/10/03/our-coverage-of-occupyboston-the-calm-before-the-storm/
To all,
It does my heart good to see you all out here. I will ry and come by with some food or supplies this week. This is the beginning of a really important people’s movement to take back our country. You are all to be commended. This is the next movement that picks up where the anti war and anti nuclear movements left off. It has spread to major US Cities and will continue to grow. Thank you so much for what you are deoing.
On a small, practical nowt, I am not sure if the mud and wet soil is still an issue. You might want to ask for donations of old wooden palets to maake walkways and sidewalks. You could try trucking and warehouse companies or put out a general appeal for them.
It rained again today, so mud and wet is still a major issue. I saw a lot of new wooden pallets show up yesterday for walkways, so hopefully that’s worked out. Please check the wiki for what supplies are in highest demand and lowest supply. https://sites.google.com/site/occupyrevolution/what-we-have
Kate:
Me thinks me smells a troll….
as someone stated at the GA – presenting a list of “Demands” is playing into the system of the press and the power elite . . . We are the Demand, the People rule, not the 1% – if we stay focused, on Message (which we are still developing) and continue to attract the 99% to join us, a “Tipping Point” will be reached . . . and the 1% will tumble, similar to the fall of the Berlin Wall
No, it’s not playing into ‘the system’ it’s the process of defining a goal and setting a process towards achieving a desired result under terms that everybody can easily understand. An amorphous ‘People Rule’ is utopian and naive. Without objectives, AKA demands, you won’t attract critical mass, this will flounder, and that will be a huge loss.
Outlining clear goals lets everyone else know, unequivocally, what it’s about and why they should care. Think they’ll find out anyway? Wrong. They’ll see photos of bandanas, hear about in-fighting and yoga sessions and think ‘bunch of kooks (commies, hippies, etc)’.
Seriously, follow the OccupyWallSt lead and devise a list of things you want or this thing is toast and you were just camping downtown. Better yet, use the outline you already have from WallSt as your first order of business. It is well thought out and adresses some of the most egregious wrongs. Not supporting this across the occupy movement would be a mistake.
Here’s a link in case you haven’t read it https://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/
Question for the media team: will footage be made available for the rest of the GA from Saturday, Oct 1? It seems that the part the general public would most be interested in: the messaging reports from the breakout groups got cut. There are clips from that I would to share as, I know they would capture people’s interest. Thanks!
@Nicolo:
Zionists aren’t jews you moron. They are from the jewish bloodline but they left Judism 2000 years ago and are SATANICS. They don’t worship God, they started their own religon to go against God. Why do you think Jesus called them the “synoguage of satan”? Again, educate yourself.
Okay, obviously your definition of zionist and the world’s definition of zionist are different.
Maybe you should start listening to me…or you can keep your general invitation and let your “rally” be a meeting place for racists. Good luck.
Hey, he is still welcome to show up, he is still part of the 99%. We have to work harder to work past his craziness, but I’m sure he has some ideas. Besides, he is probably just some guy pretending to be racist in order to make the rest of us look bad.
And P.S. Nicolo-did you ever see that picture of David Rockefeller or Jerry Seinfeld making that satanic sign? The pictures are out there and the one of Seinfeld was on the cover of TV guide a few years ago, Rockefellers=Bank of America, the Federal Reserve, Goldman Sachs. Are you starting to get it?
Sir, I appreciate your enthusiasm but this isn’t helping.
Perhaps he is a cointelpro
The Rothchilds are also part of this and are the same as the Rockefellers and Seinfeld.
BU Occupies Boston will be at the 6 pm march!!!
I’m not a racist DB but you are a left-wing manipulator. I’m really starting to wonder who put up this website. On to more intelligent people..
Honestly, do you think this website was made by conservitives?
Voter registration. I am thinking of organizing a couple of people to come out and get people registered to vote on Saturday morning. Interested? Thoughts?