Live conversations will allow us to provide up-to-the-minute information regarding people at camp, donors, supporters, and interested members of the public.
We *hope* to have someone from camp online in the channel at all times to answer questions regarding conditions in camp, though please understand that this may be difficult, pending logistics problems around keeping us online in a Boston public park.
Check it out at: http://irc.lc/indymedia/OccupyBoston
Stay well, Stay Strong
-Leighton
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if anyone is looking to connect with a client, the server is irc.indymedia.org, and you can connect at port 6697 using SSL if you’re so inclined.
and at the risk of stating the very obvious (i know irc is arcane to most people), the room is #occupyboston
Occupy Boston needs to make demands. Pick a few and be specific. What do you want? Campaign finance reform is at the root of the country’s woes. We need, limits on how much $ corporations can give to campaigns. If corporations can buy campaigns, politicians will have to pay that back with the only thing they can- votes. Get the message out loud and clear, and find a leader among you- one leader who can negotiate and speak with leaders once they begin to pay attention and want solutions. Peaceful, nonviolent protests of the past had strong leaders and specific demands. God bless America and the world.
This article in the New Yorker http://tiny.cc/bio4j typifies the situation and I believe is the primary reason this movement has legs. But I disagree in moving too quickly with a few specific demands. I think it needs time to evolve and attract all the people that have been talking to themselves for the last ten years saying What the F is going on here? I believe this is a very large and diverse group. I also think it is moderate but historical standards. Go slow.Just my opinion fwiw.
COLONIALISM and the Occupy Wall Street Movement: Challenging the Masters’ Narrative
http://cdb-tonatierra.blogspot.com/2011/10/colonialism-and-occupy-wall-street.html
I am a 60 year old social work grad student and have a schedule that has prevented me from attending. Tomorrow I want to be there. Is there any time frame that is best for participating. I have sorely missed the power of the people I experienced and participated in during the 60’s, 70’s. These protests have rekindled my hope that we have not rolled over in submission to globalization. It seemed the real people had become so mollified, so inert that they had lost their spirit. Capitalism is broken beyond repair; we need a new paradigm based on a collective, altruistic ethos.
Hi Tom, please check out my FB page if you want to partner up with a protestor. Spread the word! Thank you.
Please provide a way for those who want to remain anonymous to get involved. It’s true that demands need to be crafted and articulated, but there are so many…DEMANDS that it’s hard to do…
“We The People” demand security! We want to go to work and provide for our families and send our kids to college and have decent healthcare and an ability to retire. Even people who are good performers at work in this environment are constantly in fear if they will have a job tomorrow. YOU as organizers need to figure out creative ways to show that this can’t be branded as a movement by a bunch of
“20 somethings”, “homeless”, “unemployed”, “hippies” or “whiners” like I see the MEDIA is trying to portray. Workers in those financial companies you are protesting in front of want to join you but are afraid to protest against their own employers – CAN YOU BLAME THEM, and by that I mean can you blame me because I am one of them…
I am a 40-something, but still paying my own student loans instead of saving for my kids college, I am employed by a financial services firm, I am an Independent, a Capitalist, I work at least 50 hours a week and make over $100,000 dollars a year (this year and last, but for how long?…I don’t know)… I have never been to a rally so am not one of those that would protest just for the sake to protest. BUT THE DEMANDS need to be categorized and summarized from the site “wearethe99percent”. Who doesn’t identify with at least one of those demands? But the short version is we want SECURITY and from security comes happiness. They say that some of the happiest countries in the world are the people who live in the Scandinavian countries.
I identify with so many that posted their photos on We Are The 99%: http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/page/2 — on page 2 this one guy says that he is employed today but over the years he has been laid off, out-sourced, downsized, off-shored. Both blue collar and white collar jobs are going overseas, we are overworked and underpaid. The only reason I make six figures is because I got sick of all the executives getting bonuses and merit increases and employees not getting raises so I decided to go the more risky route and be a consultant. PLEASE FIGURE OUT WAYS for those who can’t join you in person to get involved. Thanks.
This is such an important post. There is a huge misconception that the protestors are all jobless hipppies. The media doesn’t help at all with this assumption. We need to involve working people and give them a voice in this.
CALL TO ACTION
OccupyBoston Community – please post “I AGREE” on CNN blog: http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/05/fareeds-take-how-to-fix-americas-jobs-crisis/#comment-123375
This is to get CNN to expose all the big corporations who are:
1. Reducing American jobs, not creating jobs
2. Creating jobs overseas instead of here at home
3. Cutting costs by downsizing and offshoring instead of lowering executive pay
4. Cutting costs by reducing healthcare benefits and asking employees to pay more out of pocket instead of reducing executive pay
5. Cutting costs by freezing merit increases and eliminating bonuses for employees because “the company is not performing” — AGAIN… instead of reducing executive pay
(Note – this is even high performing employees, while the executives still get bonuses when the company is not performing !! I say where is the ‘freeze’ for them ??)
Given all the controversy (Al-alwalaki/etc.) the real question “we” are asking ourselves (that some can’t/won’t admit/are trying to shut out) is should “we” be dropping bombs where the Pakistan/Yemen/ETC. leaders tell us (a.k.a. “Ya, you should hit here, here, and Oh ya, FYI, little bastard Billy right there needs to go too.)? Isn’t it? “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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Why did they hijack planes and fly them into those buildings? Because they couldn’t storm them, and everybody knows that (or should have). “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
“They say our life was just a fairy tale, that no matter how we try”, “we must surely fail”, “but where are they now, how could they ever understand”? “we” didn’t build no castle’s in the sand.” (Song: All the Kings horses Band: THE FIRM / ALBUM: MEAN BUSINESS)
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Well if it were the Titanic the standing orders (and/or gentleman thing to do) after women and children first should be fill the life boats, everybody else find and lash anything together that floats for the person (or people) to your right (or left), and if anybody hands anyone a rock, well then that’s enough reason to put anybody over. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
If you are ever on any side of a disorganized sinking ship, stick with the side saying “come on it’s you and I” (not me and you).
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Before anybody says that what I said/say was a threat for murder in “putting anybody over”, FYI Billy Zane’s character put a bullet through his own head for being a failure in that movie.
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Scientists on trial for not predicting an earthquake? They’ve been trying to tell us that the poles will flip (as they have done multiple times), that we are very much closer to, rather than further from the next ice age and that mans survival may depend(s) on whether or not positions are available underground and/or orbiting in space, that “we know” that catastrophic things happen (before/during/after/etc.) this upcoming alignment in Dec. 2012, that one of the most fascinating “almost unmentionable” facts of the precision of the Mayan calender (that everyone is fascinated about) is that the point of everything that they believed in (tried to teach), can only be observed (a.k.a. based) on an island, a few hundred miles off the Chilean coast, that is so obscured because of weather conditions (etc.) that it is only possible to see (let alone land on) for a very brief moment of any year. Does this mean that “when” these occurrences do happen (as they “have tried” to raise awareness), all (and/or) any faults/blame/etc. are to fall on science/scientists/etc., or the leaders of our world whom are taking their advice and building areas of preparations (for themselves) while contemplating (or have already prepared) speeches (for any that do survive) on how “not to worry” because man (and/or “their”) way of life will continue? The only time that “we” (the masses) hear of any (as well as all) of any planned preparations, is when someone “Blows it open” (and /or tells everyone what “they” are really up to) and/or on programs like “Modern Marvels”. Then what happens when not our enemies find out where they are (because chances are they already knew), but we the people know “where to find” our elected officials? They abandon these positions, leave them unprepared without maintenance, lock any and all out whether anything “happens” or not, then go and dig another secret hole for themselves w/ “their new personal planned evacuation routes”. Before “I” continue rambling on (one could write volumes if everything were put together) recently released from our intelligent agencies (because the public would in most cases have had a rightful uproar) is the fact that “certain” German scientists where “loyal Germans/Nazis” (some having designed “more efficient human disposal ovens”) when “we” were @ war with them, and when “they” became Americans, they became “loyal Americans” and many do not feel uncomfortable w/ that fact as well as can accept it. I for “one” didn’t see any show of hands, because although I can find no fault w/ any loyal American Germans, I have a major problem with that because of the many denials to every rightful question, that has wrongfully been refused/denied (combined w/ everything else etc.). “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
P.S. Ref. program “Doomsday Island”/ If whatever we evolved from could survive these events, then if respectfully/rightfully done in a human manner, working as a whole, “we” can too.
“What If”(The Band Creed/Album human clay), twas only gold?
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Song “Limelight”: RUSH
When communication breaks down one of the easiest ways to break on through (of which there are multiple options) to a 4yr. old when they are screaming and crying over nothing is to explain (explain) that there is a difference between getting beat up (or having reason) to scream and cry and not (this is usually followed by a blissful pause then sigh/sometimes vise-versa). During repetitive arguments in the midst of any discussion just asking them to think (open the door) about if they would like something to cry about (without insinuating words such as beating etc.) followed immediately by more encouragement (incentive) to really stop and think about whether or not this is the right way to go from here, “them” being mean for leaving no option but to find a way to “break through” to an understanding (this is usually followed by dancing eyes and you know that the “air hockey machine” just kicked in/ a small hole but “Hey” it’s a start). Something such as words like”come on man, do you really want to go that way, I don’t know it all sounds pretty stupid to me but I’m gonna count to three” (for maximum effect on operation Break on through). The must tactic for this mission to be successful is that the real Samurai warrior has got to repeat this process for a minimum /maximum of two to three times (this is important now) because some should note that it is @ this moment in time when certain other tempo/tactics have changed (Danger Will Robinson Danger!/must discourage the two dark side evil words “Ya but” for it is their most powerful weapon/trust me on this one). After the repeating process the statement “hey you can cry over nothing in your bed (not corner etc.) just as well as throwing your little silly tantrum right here, as a matter of fact I and everybody else thinks that from the bed sounds a lot better” (you should note that the dancing eyes have stopped and that you have confirmation of intelligent understanding this should be followed w/ a few alright(s)/come on(s)/etc.). For those that think I don’t know what I’m talking about, I don’t know how you handle things but it worked for me because then I could light his cousins birthday cake (he’s four too) and after the singing (which @ certain moments was worse than some of the crying but different because everybody just laughed about it) we had ice cream cake and a great time (FYI Ice Cream cake has got to be eaten before it melts so that everybody can enjoy it). I was just glad to help because my daughter (his mother) even though she doesn’t really spank him was getting the eye of the tiger my mother use to get when she said “walls were made for kids to go through” if I ever wanted to try calling her “bluff” (she is great but push your luck NOT!/maybe that’s why she never really had to). For those still wondering where this is going maybe we can (should) apply these tactics elsewhere (political etc.) because for as many signatures that it would take to enact any legal petition should be all that is needed for that number (w/ three forms of Legal I.D.) to walk hand in hand into the White House (and ask what’s up? etc.) and/or prison, look @ say a soldier (as an example etc.) take their hand and say “lets go we’re checking out” and walk right back out again (or just make a few of our own new loopholes etc.) because Ice Cream cake has got to be eaten “before” it all melts so that “everyone” can enjoy it.
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
The danger of any danger is that some danger never really ends, so prepare yourself, good luck and always remember and never forget that “The passion of “any” Samurai will always defeat the purpose of “every” Ninja”, and/or if you didn’t get enough of me last time, you can have all of me this time, “Oh yeah”, 1/2/3/DIG IT?! Randy Macho Man Savage +R.I.P.+
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It is so hard trying to remain optimistic for the future of this great country of ours when we are told (and already know) what we have to do and then have to ask when are we going to do it? Each one of us are looking for that one little bit of inspiration that’s going to make all the ridicules mundane mumbo jumbo seem like it never happened. From trying to express that yes we as a community of sane good people do understand that there have to be sacrifices, but how does one explain anything when instead of trying to come up with a com-posit to replace water bottles (oil product), or not coming up w/ new road material instead of hot top (oil product), or not putting our best minds together to develop a modern day kind of Terra per-ta (the Mayan answer for growing nutritious foods in poor conditions/ 6ft. of fertilized soil that doesn’t need turning even today 1,000 years later) that would drastically reduce the need of soaking our farming products with fertilizers made up w/ the stuff. For half a century our best reliable scientists have wanted hydrogen as a major clean, reliable, renewable fuel and power source, then some fool will bring up the Hindenburg and by the time we get done explaining that it has already been established that it wasn’t the Hydrogen that exploded (FYI hydrogen burns blue/ not bright orange and yellow) but the skin of the craft itself they admit it only when every adult starts to fight about something else. Instead of the implementation of solutions what do we see on t.v.? Everybody has to do their fair share but as usual it is the majority scratching to survive that we see any so called needed changes. After all of these great meant to unify and rally speeches we cut to commercial and see an oil company add praising technology, further exploration, and fueling 9.2 million of America’s jobs when the people really don’t want it anymore (not even for a dollar a gallon) so somebody should tell them to save any announcement on any major discoveries, it has served mankind well but it’s time has passed, the course has been set. As usual we have to do these things and where do they start as well as end? The real average family’s throats (and that’s all folks!). If it keeps up the best case scenario we can hope for is that there isn’t anything bad happening when the Speaker of the House John Boehner is making one of his speeches on how he can’t visit schools because he can’t look our children in the, in the face (the whole time crying like a baby), that would only inspire any third world moron to try and invade with some kind of new stealth wicker tank. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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What’s wrong with the pyramid/ R.I.P.? The fact that we teach our children that the “Great Pyramids” were built to house the bodies of the Pharaohs when in fact not one of these great structures contain the body of a Pharaoh (Queen or anyone), combined w/ another fact that a culture that so revered life after death and feared tomb robbing (etc.) would build such an awe inspiring structure (regardless of size or dimension) that would scream “Here I am”!(.)
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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Anybody that can not see Gov. Scott (all) for what that man truly is (the perfect example of rich and shameless arrogance) as well as any planned foreseeable future of what use to be a retirement state is all in on the unscheduled inevitable clash of using law to promote injustice of lets take a pick, ignore all/any complaints of due process ending at a brick wall that reads one step forward three steps back, P.S. put pressure on that to end the bleeding and relax/be patient, is a moron. That’s period w/ a P.. No matter what key contradicting wrongs anyone may speak of, if your looking for the rabbit hole follow the one thing that rides silent like a parasite with every scenario that continues to play-out, Extortion. Unless it is identified, removed, and exposed for what it is it will continue to plague (or until). That’s period w/ a P. The politicians (etc.) aren’t stopping, they are going to Jack rabbit the first chance they get. The greatest crime against humanity seems to equate to the immense evidence as well as possibility/probability of man falling pray to modern day carpetbaggers trying to escape humiliation (and/or justice) making the ones of old look like choir boys compared to the modern day “Jack the Rippers” of the here and now. That is period w/ a capital P. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
Holding any of our soldiers simply because they aren’t crazy enough yet is wrong (time to pay the piper). “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men” (Ezekiel’s; 25;17/movie: Pulp Fiction). Wherever, whatever, whenever reading, comprehension and writing are not equally applied, it is there as well as then that mathematics and science will always fail.
P.P.S.
Maybe somebody will find what’s left of us and say, “Ya, they built all of this without a written language (not)”. +
Never give up/say it like it is. Social security was never meant to be touched, it has been rummage funded w/ the premise of any issues to be revisited @ a later (more convenient) time (whenever that was suppose to be) and replaced (but never was). If you wish to stay w/ the issue, you reported on 4,000 people that were dead still receiving monies, but no one said exactly where those monies really ended up. Straight from the heart the Republicans don’t want the White House or they wouldn’t be acting like a certain human exit. Palin is a fool who belongs on the cast of All my Children, Bachman (although nice) belongs on One life to live, and Perry is reminiscent of the picture perfect bad guy in a Steven Seagal movie. Do you want a real question to ask the so called Party? Riddle me this Batman, how come only Democrats get a head shot in Texas? “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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Great Chinese Proverb:ONLY NIXON WOULD/COULD GO TO CHINA” (SPOCK / I believe it was VI The Undiscovered Country/That’s period w/ a capital P.). “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
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“We’d like to know a little bit about you for our files”.”We’d like to help you learn to help yourself”. “Look around you all see are sympathetic lies” (“but most of all you gotta hide it from the kids” / Paul Simon / Mrs. Robinson). Never give up, say it like it is. The President is/was right about eating your own peas. The perfect over example for what has happened to/w/ Social Security. Please let us do discuss (as well as apply) first and formost reading/writting/and comprehension to a program that when started WAS MANDATED NEVER TO BE TOUCHED. After which it should be mentioned that when honored, up running and showing surplus, which by law should have been protected from one dime going anywhere other than this program/ the concerned/ families of/ any new Americans (through a fair correct earned due proccess) and yes probably even disability after given proper motivation/ chance if it were only rightfully placed to collect it’s own “little” intrest rate on/in beginning it’s own seperate area (which a senior should be able to collect part of (let’s say 3rd of any benifit) when inevitably they do become disabled/ vise-versa (protected by universal anybody would be out of their minds laws to touch/change). This is where meanless confrentational uproar says “well just how do figure”? Well (for the number crunchers), we should look @ every moment of the past where it was “rumage funded” elsewhere meant to be replaced (exclaimed as such) and never was, instead of safe (not endangred by) penalty/ purjury laws where it was mishandled, misdirected, mismaneged, over billed and/or scalped (a.k.a. stolen/extorted) etc.. Again “how do you figure”? Well (besides any of the before mentioned), having been a former CNA of some 13yrs. I must say that although it is nice to know that catheter users can now get a clean catheter every time they need to cath, 200 catheters a month seems not only exsesive but expectionaly cruel (ouch), the backwards “yes we are”, “no we’re not”, p.s. “nor were we, until we milk it and THE PEOPLE for whatever their worth” matters of wrongful (because of self implicating involvment) bias politics. “Well how do you figure”? Well energy speaking if we had kept it as things were (spending only what was needed w/ little extra for “just in case”) even if we were to add 12-17% to put towards easing the burden on the program(s) it would still be less (as well as more benificial) than it is now and/or going to be. This is where “we’re sorry” you have gone beyond the number of allowed characters that you are permitted to use, please shorten what you need to say and return to the back of the line while we consult w/ Charles Manson. After being patient having gone through the line for the second time I’ll just say “okay” as Brad Pitt in the movie fight club would put it taking someone else’s head of lettuce, cucumber, onion, tomato, etc. as well as your carrot and jammin’ it all up your own butt does not make you a nutritous salad, it only means that you just “F’ed-bombed” yourself(s) w/ a bunch of produce in a few hours that could have fed everbody for three or four days. P.S. If your not a rabbit then how come you got long ears, hmm?/the Abominable Snowman to Daffy Duck dressed like Bugs Bunny/and you can file that in your private fileing system (or “page”) under FYI, hump salad, and you (?) as well as Charlie can kiss my sweet mid-40’s, English-Italian/french-Irish, proud grandfather of two half black children ass. Oops, now look what you made me do, back to the end of the line (not for swearing but for once again using to many characters).
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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As we ponder the thought of whether or not the any more than just fortunate rich should pay more taxes (when they aren’t paying any) and if everybody is truly on the same page (not look over here) how about we start at our beginning? Everybody pay the same (percentage wise), screw the deviant “Made Offs” (as well as punish them), IF it isn’t right then it is wrong (rework all of the rightful due processes that mysteriously end @ a brick wall that reads one step forward three steps back), enforce some real Anti-Bullying Laws and go from there?
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
Everybody can understand that Politicians don’t pay taxes for their political positions, but will never understand (or comprehend) how any wouldn’t have to pay taxes on/in whatever else it is that they really have their hands (butts Etc.) into/ whatever they are really doing).
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About all of the interviews and conversations on the ridiculous everything, I for one am convinced that there are too many high ranking officials (everywhere) who really don’t understand if they’ve been kissed, shot, screwed, or snake-bit if they could pose such an outlandish statement that everyone here at home and abroad have to “all” accept responsibility for the decisions that don’t even make any common sense @ all to anyone with any common sense.(?) In remaining civilized anyone who can’t comprehend polling and tar and feathering everywhere as the inevitable best case scenario is fooling themselves.
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A little run down on Pakistan and world wide politics/ policies. Without excluding anybody (father, son, in-laws, etc.) if you are a large tightly knit “like it or not family” and whatever, wherever, whenever there is social unrest as well as upheaval and one name regardless of so many different scenarios (etc.) keeps coming up (negatively) one should always try (with total cooperation of all who should be interested/ unilaterally) to find ways to communicate “the anomaly’s” directly. During conversation when the more than likely “ya buts” start flying although everyone should continue to try to get that (those) person (people) to an understanding (be there when they are down, etc.) those people (or person) cannot be all allowed to continuously undermine, threaten, or shred the fabric of the whole. Sooner or later they will either “see the light” or because of their nature “have to be dragged into it”. That is of course unless it is the fabric (as a whole) which is “the perfect vermin ridden example of a certain exit” which is wrong. When the answer is always “yes you are right that is the way it should be, but this is the real world and that’s just not the way it is”, and look over here gets stale and/or stagnant, when the greatest crime against humanity seems to equate to the immense evidence as well as possibility/probability of man falling pray to modern day carpetbaggers trying to escape humiliation (and/or justice) making the ones of old look like choir boys compared to the modern day “Jack the Rippers” of the here and now, the treason is in having a course set, proclamation of direction ordered to be maintained (w/ God’s speed), when things begin to fall apart, for some unknown reason the sails remain furled, the commander sees it, knows what needs to be done, but some crew members (supposedly) act on contradicting orders (or threat) of an “unknown stowaway(s)”, when the rest of the crew begins to be flogged for insubordination for trying to do “the right thing”, it truly helps to know who the captain really is. “Time to pay the piper, all hands on deck”! Because as everyone should know (as well as understand) that every man or woman wishes (w/ all of their hearts) that their children will be better than they where. They are (John Wayne/ The Cowboys) and worth fighting for.The first order of business is to “smoke out” the “stowaway(s)”, during the “keel hauling ceremonies” (the second order of business) the truth will be known. It is such a damn shame that the few people who have so much can’t recognize that what they wish to really obtain (world power) would be obtained so easily (and they would be loved) if properly managed (etc.) and they would only stop kidding themselves about comparing what is happening to this country (world/ humanity/ etc.) to the past failures and/or downfalls of any historical empire(s) instead of what is really going on, certain so called people are trying to create one (or multiple). Some people should take the doctors advice and really stop playing w/ themselves so much before they go blind. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
“We” can’t (or shouldn’t) let the housing market get to where it was before.
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If you wish to get the Politicians attention say it like it is, in being smug they should have better realized that the public no longer is gullible enough to believe or see (with any common sense at all) of any true middle ground in this two party system, if Jack the Ripper where to unknowingly materialize, run for office with just giving off the premise of promising to address the wrongful laws and loops holes (identify theft etc.) that have wrongfully affected the general public not only would he win, but after the election and enacting his campaign promise just being given the chance to be rightfully heard if he announced who he really was immediately following no one would really care about the latter (that is not only sad but pathetic), C.E.O.’s can’t get elected to office so they’ve devised a way to get appointed, our troops are not only basically surrounded as they were in Vietnam but their movements are being dictated by our own enemy’s, certain people give off the illusion that they are trying to make a positive impact by telling people to be patent (as if they have any real choice), you know the manipulative and their family’s are starting to hear it when so much emphasis is being diverted to starting anti-bullying laws because “they” don’t do anything unless it affects “them”, because of some paid off morons who should be egged, toilet papered and buried up to their necks on the white House front lawn for even showing up at a funeral our other protesting laws/freedoms will be affected, no one cares about the mid-term elections because everybody knows that politicians and politics are not only a joke, but everyone is beginning to realize that the rich and shameless have literally “sold out” mankind, leave it up to C.E.O’s and their cronies/economists to put up boundaries (or set goals) on (or in) “Fantasia” (the movie: Never Ending Story) because this isn’t the new normal this is “business ass usual. Wow, can’t wait for tomorrow. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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All or any anger towards “certain private sector(s)” sitting on any monies (that haven’t already been straight up extorted), lacking in positions of employment, may deserve a dope slap, but please, lets be Candid, monies would (or will) be freed up immediately after “project save own ass” (whatever the F-bomb that is), quite frankly the off loading of all the B.S. that they have been selling us (at a steady continuous major profit). The rallying speeches have been spoken, the dire exclamations of the need for known alternative fuels laid out, the facts for more deregulation proven incorrect, what may sell today may not sell tomorrow. Many are waiting to see (or find) the next big thing (the direction we must go from here). Confidence would return, investments would be made if people understood exactly what the F-bomb. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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Politics and patriotism? As much as certain people may be in some kind of delusional denial, it’s about the establishment of this country, an idea (a good one), not any political party and/or form of government. Proclamation of direction was spoken as true fact. What the H E double hockey sticks are we still doing here? They have life by the short hairs and they are straight up F bombing it up. All this talk of doing away with Social Security (something that shouldn’t have been gambled away because it should have never been touched), just what does that exactly mean, doing away with it or calling something else, like just another move for project save own ass?
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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No you can’t take “it” (whatever) with you, why? Because “it” isn’t yours. Now if someone would like to go hide in a hole somewhere, good luck (FYI don’t come out).
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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If anybody is looking for people to make investments (a.k.a. freeing up monies that haven’t already been extorted), taking the next steps that should have been taken (naming the next main alternative(s) that everybody has been so agreeably talking about) would instill confidence with anybody looking to make future investments (because it sure looks like if there is a “plan” certain “people” are keeping it to/or for/ themselves/again). If anybody would like to dispute (or use as an excuse) anything scientifically, our top minds have always wanted hydrogen as the best evolutionary proper direction that should have been taken decades ago and to the “simple minded” the question will always be (as well as stand smack in your face) not whether or not the Hindenburg blew up (because we know it didn’t most of everybody on site survived and wouldn’t have otherwise), but “WHY” didn’t it blow up (a.k.a. how come)?
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
P.S. EST. 1626
Nine, nine, nine, across the board is also German for no, no, no. What master mind political adviser didn’t say, “Just say ten, ten, ten (for now/For anybody that wouldn’t know any better)?
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Why would anyone want to be President? To be a major contributor in setting things right. To be there to not only “say” everything is going to be alright, but “prove it”. We have flooding in the north, and drought in the south, the underground water table in our “bread basket” is more than half gone? How about we show how advanced we are and not build an oil pipeline (a total contradiction to any past proclamation of expressed leadership direction), but construct a filtered community/farming aqua system? To be a true leader of my people (all) and say to Gov. Christie, ya although getting away with standing in the face of an “old man” (and/or “woman”) in a State House or Town Hall may turn on some backwards politicians acting like a bunch of spoiled dictators, but it sure didn’t (didn’t) win any points for those that wanted to smash their television. To be able to fly, drive, walk (or crawl) and to stand (or sit) with my fellow Americans on Wall Street and ask the cops why are you tugging on that handcuffed woman’s (and/or mans) arm like that? Your lucky that you didn’t dislocate her arm on National T.V., now know your role and sit your ass down w/ “YOUR PEOPLE”. ETC. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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In trying to come and grasp the differences that seem to be all apparently setting closely religious cultures apart perhaps if all looked, try to remember (and acknowledge) at say the moments of while attempting to convert cultures the methods that where most adopted was in taking in what already existed as belief in that culture and “their” times of wanted celebration and getting them to accept those moments to correlate with “their” philosophy and the religion trying to be introduced. Certain inquisitions didn’t help, “trippin” on a fungus and hanging the wrong witches really put a damper on things (and poor excuse), a pact in World War 2 that stated if the Arab Nations would assist us in our fight against the Germans and their axis forces then when all the fighting had concluded only “they” would have any say over all the Arab lands that was broken by the English and French (when oil was discovered they split these lands/America did nothing) was a slap in the face, ETC. There are only three major differences that separate the Bible and Koran (a derivative of which/truly one and the same explained in a different way). It is in identifying the when and how’s (not vice-versa), looking @ the moon and not the finger pointing the way (enter the dragon), and in not letting a few differences get in the way of the truth of the word that was accepted (the awareness that there really is a lord our GOD and that is/was suppose to be the entire point). In the Second World War we were successful allies fighting the Turks (centuries old enemies) and Germans (etc), today (and ever since) we have been trying to make things right without revisiting the time everything changed, went wrong and completely thrown in reverse such as now attempting in using the Turks (now our allies) to lead them (the Arabs) anywhere in a major way. If so many disturbing issues keep bring us back to the major point of any timeline, then it is there where everyone can find a correlation (reason). Every time anyone tries to revisit the last time (this point/regardless of reason) those now at war were on the same page someone in the shadows (whom are leading us) throws up a brick wall and says “hey look over there (while pointing)”, or “no you can’t have access”, ETC. The sooner that we conclude that nearly all our faults are the direct result of our allowances the closer to the truth will we become. The future plan of establishing a new world order is not certain. It is incomprehensible when trying to communicate that a few differences which are only the same words spoken in a different way (and/or people) can undermine all the rest. Regardless of any topic once a known most identifiable “something” appears where it ought to be the undeniable facts of its origins and truth of its words cannot be mocked or separated for any reason due to its significance. Everyone regardless of circumstance admits someone is intentionally keeping us at each other’s throats, maybe if we can first all confirm that it isn’t at least the same person (or affiliated people) and then go from there we would all see better results.
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
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“Making the connection/Clearing the air”
During his travels thru Turkey the great explorer Marco Polo (1254-1324) once wrote of viewing an object on Mount Ararat (really a volcano, by volume the largest mountain in the world) and described in detail of what he knew to be true. Today in our time and kept filed away it is known as “The Ararat anomaly”. In trying to strengthen bonds here at home and bridge a gap that in all honesty and by any standards is really small due to the fact that we are all already undeniably both culturally and religiously linked. Could the “Ararat anomaly” (just as it was mistakenly used as a catalyst of hostilities) possibly be the holster for many smoking guns? Isn’t it at all possible that a flash of a seen tangible object whether in the mind, picture on a wall or television, could cause anyone in the world enough moment of pause and come to terms in their own way, at their own speed to make a difference for the better? Regardless of whether or not you may believe in the writings contained in the Torah, Bible, or Koran you should know that if you use the “N” word you will not only be shut down and out, but labeled. Yes, the U.S. does have pictures of something strange on Mount Ararat , some taken from planes of the forties, early and late U2 spy planes, and KH-9/KH-11 spy Satellites of the 70s with enough resolution to see a grapefruit from space. Only few have access, some have flat out said that it is a boat; others say it’s a rock or they don’t know, but it is something. No, most in intelligence, military, U.S. civilians, or even elected officials can’t have access to anything regardless of “the freedom of information act” (religion, speech, or any choice, etc.) mandated by law for even though we have gone beyond the technology that was used to obtain them, all of which is known and documented even by people considered dangerous, what is being shown (or not) is a matter of National Security. As illogical as it sounds, believe it or not although some have said it is nothing the U.S. (or whomever they are) may probably continue to withhold or release everything they so choose regarding anything that has to do with this matter. Contrary to some beliefs it is not science that has caused any dissention. For as long as any can remember at a time of certain years (they seem to know when), elders, scholars, and the native people of the region have proudly spoken, encouraged and motivated pilgrimages to any who could go. The outrage and restrictions to visit certain areas began when some began taking things in direct violation to a long tradition of carrying wood up the mountain (not down) and yet still others with all of the appearances of something that can be only taken as professional rivalry, ego, vanity, etc., began to discredit all findings of something that they and others have said was always there, exactly as it has been written in many different beliefs and religious cultures, including their own. Yes, artifacts as well as honest respectable people are being discredited scientifically thru carbon dating methods alone despite the inventor of the method itself (after the fact) having stated that because certain objects were being subjected to melt water, as well as conditions of a different vintage (or year), although the test could continue to be used as a helpful guide, realistically alone it is unreliable to be taken as conclusive. Yes, there are those who would wish to prevent something that would cause us to rethink everything that we thought we knew or have been told. Yes, knowing that it is a tradition to carry wood up (not down) that mountain and most traditions are based on actual fact and reason, it is entirely plausible that some of the sites are staging areas or shrines built by a very religious people, perhaps even connected from actual parts taken from a whole and put in a proper place as tribute (especially near or on a mountain) for all to see so as to be a fearful reminder not to be taken lightly. The name itself means “mountain of pain” and throughout history it has been proven what man and beast can accomplish if properly motivated or inspired when moving and placing large heavy objects of significance. In regards to the discredit of building materials, time, or anything else. Respects must be given to the architect as well as people who have felt it to be a great honor to have been charged with the awesome responsibility of protecting and maintaining a sacred object that could no longer (realistically) be maintained. If we start knowing that we are all inexplicitly linked, more common than not, and that we all do at least appear to be on the same page it may be a way to come to terms and end all of the repetitive wrongs we experience everyday. It is said that the greatest trick the devil ever played on mankind was convincing people that he didn’t exist. The future plan of establishing a new world order is not certain. It is incomprehensible when trying to communicate that a few differences which are only the same words spoken in a different way (and/or people) can undermine all the rest. Regardless of any topic once a known most identifiable “something” appears where it ought to be the undeniable facts of its origins and truth of its words cannot be mocked or separated for any reason due to its significance. Throughout history and around the world there are teachings as well as evidence of a great flood and a boat load of survivors. In the Koran the tale is known as “The Epic of Gilgamesh”, in the Torah and Holy Bible (the origin of which) that same tale contained with “The Lords Prayer” and the following three words accept by all “by God’s command” is known as “Noah’s ark” (a.k.a. Noah/Gilgamesh).
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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The three differences (only) that truly separate the Torah, Bible, and/or Koran are as follows: Eternity, final Judgement, and Jesus Christ. Well “WE” have the first two licked because “No one” can dispute who rules those courses. Jesus is/was a/the key to salvation (FYI that’s all folks!). It is incomprehensible that a few differences, which are the same words (only spoken in a different way) and/or “PEOPLE”, can undermine all the rest. It is wrong to use “any” person (most especially “using that person ETC.”) to do it. “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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And anybody can write that anyway you/they want it.
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Well, there can no longer be any doubt. “IF” Roswell were a true event (German/advanced alien insect/and or otherwise/ETC.), it “had” to be a “Trojan horse”, or else we probably wouldn’t be in this mess! “Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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If it isn’t wrong, then it is right, does sound better.
“Most sincerely”,
(LOVE-n-STUFF)
DONNIE Salem Mass.
EST. 1626
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Occupy Wall St has come up with a platform and I like it – simple and focused. Our government and capitalist system is broken and needs to be fixed on a scale we haven’t seen since Teddy Roosevelt. If our financial house is fixed other important issues will follow (environment, healthcare, etc)
I lived in a communist country and joined the John Birch Society when I returned stateside; so I’m coming at this from a “right” point of view, but communism/authoritarianism has arrived in America and its not in Dewey Square. Its in the large American cartels and on the surface of the swamp in DC.
I will definitely be participating in this demonstration
Boston’s movement is my favorite. Saludos from Puerto Rico.